Awe and Shock.

LONDON – The United States was “hell bent” on a 2003 military invasion of Iraq and actively undermined efforts by Britain to win international authorization for the war, a former British diplomat told an inquiry Friday.

Jeremy Greenstock, British ambassador to the United Nations from 1998 to 2003, said that President George W. Bush had no real interest in attempts to agree on a U.N. resolution to provide explicit backing for the conflict.

The ex-diplomat, who served as Britain’s envoy in Iraq after the invasion, said serious preparations for the war had begun in early 2002 and took on an unstoppable momentum.

As diplomats frantically attempted in early 2003 to agree upon a U.N. resolution approving a military offensive, Bush’s key aides grew impatient — criticizing the process as an unnecessary distraction, he said.

Grumbling from Washington “included noises about ‘this is a waste of time, what we need is regime change, why are we bothering with this, we must sweep this aside and do what’s going to have to be done anyway — and deal with this with the use of force,'” Greenstock testified before the inquiry into the Iraq war.

Several nations had hoped to stall the invasion of Iraq to allow U.N. weapons inspectors more time to search for evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction — the key justification for the war. No such weapons were ever found.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091127/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_iraq_inquiry

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18 Responses to “Awe and Shock.”

  1. Can you explain to me why the US should have waited for the Muslim contaminated UN to approve of such an action? America is, after all, a sovereign nation and not in any way, shape, or form beholden to the filth of the UN, who are too busy placating and fellating the Muslim vermin to be of any use to any nation made up of humans.

  2. Um, well, I think the results speak for themselves.

  3. Yes they do. Saddam is dead and Iraq, now largely purged of its more militant Muslims, is a budding young democracy that may someday take its place amongst the Civilized Nations of mankind.

  4. Ha ha! You’re good!

  5. I’m right too. ;)

    True, it was a bloody mess. More true, America underestimated the vileness and hatred ingrained in the Muslim peoples. Even more true, we put our men and women in the military at serious risk by asking them to, without proper law enforcement training, police the Iraqis.

    But we won and we succeeded in bringing relative stability to Iraq in a manner that will give their new government a chance – just that – at maintaining it.

  6. “Keep your eyes open. Travel light but load heavy, and always put another round in the enemy after they’re down.”

    Jonolan, you’re as fundamentalist as any Muslim vermin.

  7. The difference being that I’m a fundamentalist American.

    • conservative estimates put the death toll of innocent iraqi children killed since the US-led invasion in the tens of thousands. perhaps you should go stand on their graves waving a placard that reads: “but we WON!”

      • Yes, leah. It’s a horrific total and a great shame. As I said, America underestimated the vileness and hatred ingrained in the Muslim peoples.

        Most of us just couldn’t believe that the Iraqis would kill amongst themselves in the wake of Saddam’s removal to that degree or with so much disregard for the innocents living amongst them.

        • oh well of course, the US armed forces haven’t harmed a single child with their bombs in the ‘shock & awe’ invasion and protracted war in iraq, those pesky muslims did it! see, they just don’t love their kids the way americans do

          (there there, now find a happy place in your delusional world and the men in white coats will be along soon with a comfy straight jacket to return you to your cozy padded cell and daily doses of lithium)

          • Got a problem with the children that were sadly killed by Americans in WW1 or WW2, or is it only collateral damage caused from removing a Muslim tyrant that bothers you, leah?

            Or is it just that two wars against tyrants that were little, if any, immediate threat to America were before your time and therefor before your hatred for America blighted this world?.

  8. my hatred of america? LOL, paranoid much? lithium. look into it. seriously. i have a deep affection for america. the blight on this world? people like you, so pathetic and blinded by hate you can’t even see past your own fence

    and actually yes, i have a problem with even ONE child being killed in an act of war, anywhere. so should you.

    now, funny how the ONE tyrant the US under bush junior was interested in removing by means of military force is the one who ruled over an EXTREMLY oil-rich country with little military prowess; who posed little threat outside the region; who had peskily managed to evade capture in the previous war with daddy at the helm; who was already being watched like a hawk and monitored by the world police…

    so do tell, why didn’t team bush invade the following countries to depose the tyrants of:

    bashir in the sudan (no wait, the US gets far too much oil from the sudan! just do your raping and pillaging quietly please)

    jintao in china

    mugabe in zimbabwe

    jong-il in n. korea

    abdulla in s. arabia (oh hell no, the US gets far too much oil from s. arabia! just oppress your population quietly please! let’s hold hands)

    gaddafi in libya

    shwe in burma

    etc, etc, etc

    no? why ever not, if the US is self-mandated to invade countries and depose tyrants? why just the one tyrant? why not invade china? roll on into burma? stop the genocide in darfur? invade saudi arabia? come on now, TYRANTS!

    (the mere fact you compare the rather facile regime in terms of international threat of saddam hussein — incidentally a former US ally whom was helped into power by the US — to that of HITLER speaks to how utterly idiotic and brainwashed you sadly are)

  9. I give you one thing – we should remove the scum you’ve listed, with the possible exception of Abdulla is KSA since he’s not near as bad as the people he rules over.

    You can’t rightfully claim to have a fondness for America though when you spew vitriol against it and side with its enemies.

    • So when you admit America should help remove other far more despotic nations, why is that not a slap at your country but it is when Leah acknowledges this? Because she understands the military-industrial concerns at work. Leah understands this nation far better than you. This highly Republican stance of “With Or Against Us” has lead to our current global and economic disasters. Hating America? It sounds like you hate the world.

      • Andrew Sullivan today: “It’s staggering really that modern American Christianism supports wealth while Jesus demanded total poverty, fetishizes family while Jesus left his and urged his followers to abandon wives, husbands and children, champions politics while Jesus said his kingdom was emphatically not of this world, defends religious war where Jesus sought always peace, and backs torture, which is what the Romans did to Jesus.

        At some point these charlatans need to be chased out of the temple. Which these days means the Republican party.”

      • Admitting that America should go further is nowhere near the same as claiming America was wrong to remove two tyrannical regimes because we didn’t remove some other ones of admittedly lower strategic value.

        It’s highly, highly doubtful that leah has anywhere near my understanding of the “military-industrial complex,” since I worked within it foryears.

  10. christian: the phrase ‘an exercise in futility’ comes to mind

    • That, leah, we can agree upon. Your views and mine are antithetical to each other. I also doubt that that either of us is amendable to changing our respective positions, both being based upon our experiences and overall views of right & wrong.

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